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Nov 9

ohiogurl:

mametupa:

stillhidden:

mametupa:

This is why Eric Northman is the greatest maker ever. He knows that taking care of a new vampire and “becoming a maker is an eternal commitment; greater than any marriage, deeper than any human bond.” He turns Pam because he sees something in her worth saving even if she’s a common prostitute, the lowest of the low. And even if he could have let her bleed to death, he doesn’t. 

And if you think further, those two — turn her or let her die here and now — aren’t his only options in that situation. He could have made her drink his blood and healed her wounds. She just made the cuts, she didn’t have time to lose too much blood yet. He could have healed and glamoured her to forget this ever happened.

He chose to turn her because, yes, he saw her as a person worth turning, but it’s also that he saw how determined she was. He didn’t come there looking for a permanent connection of any kind. The fact that he found Pam to someone he could see spending a lot of time with, and also a valuable person — intelligent, resilient, resourceful, brave — didn’t convince him alone. What sealed the deal, I think — however reluctant he might have been — was that he saw she wasn’t just playing at this. If she were willing to die for this opportunity, truly willing to die, not just saying it, then she was absolutely in earnest. 

It’s not just that Eric takes the “parental” side of this equation very, very seriously and responsibly. It’s the “child” side, too. Because he’s been everything to Godric — father, brother, son — not just that Godric was all these things to him. Because Eric would never turn someone who wasn’t 100% committed. Because that’s the kind of commitment this is to him. 

Yes, and don’t forget that Pam’s words to Eric “Let me walk the world with you, Mr. Northman” are almost the same as Godric used when he asked Eric if he wanted to be turned:) 

Eric took his “parental” responsibilities very seriously. I can write this with a straight face now, but in season one I thought he was being sarcastic when he kept telling Bill that having a progeny was very rewarding. Season one Eric looked so bored and distant that I never believed what he said. But he really did mean it—he loves his child, Pam. It took till season 3 and her imprisonment by the magister for me to understand how much. 

I agree with the speculations on Eric’s motives. He could have let her die, fed her his blood to heal but not turn her, or turn her into a vampire. He could even have healed her and glamoured away the memory (while implanting a repugnance for trying suicide again). But in the few moments he had, he made the decision to turn her. He saw something valuable in Pam—her honesty, intelligence, and strength. I think he also realized that she would make a good vampire.

Vampires, especially before the advent of Tru Blood and their “coming out”, have to be mentally strong and morally flexible. Otherwise, they would never remain sane while having to feed on and sometimes kill humans. It would be too psychologically traumatic. But Pam’s history as a madam inured her to suffering and a certain amount of “using” other people. It also helped her armor her emotions.

You can see what happens when you choose someone too wedded to conventional notions of morality—look at Bill. Lorena chose to turn him because he acted better than any of her other gentleman callers. But his psyche didn’t survive becoming a member of a race he thought was “damned”, or feeding on human beings to survive. He might have transitioned properly given a maker like Eric—someone who fed to eat, not to cause pain. But Lorena’s addiction to sadism and brutality, and her tutelage of her vulnerable progeny in her methods, left lasting psychological scars on Bill.

Lorena chose poorly, and then she compounded her error by raising her progeny incorrectly. As Eric pointed out to her, she never taught him to respect his elders. In the 40 years since she turned him, Lorena should have taught him vampire etiquette and how to navigate their society. But 1906 Bill was almost feral, with no control or understanding of consequences. It was only Eric’s forbearance that left him alive. She seems to have neglected other things, as well. Bill has very little control while feeding. He has a tendency to get caught up in blood lust and forget what he’s doing. That’s how he ended up nearly draining Sookie in the back of the truck.

Pam was chosen because Eric thought she was strong enough, and committed enough to becoming a vampire, to do well. His commitment to her—the way he trained and protected her—ensured that she survived and thrived. 

Nov 4

stillhidden:

ohiogurl:

stillhidden:

fabulouslyfreespirited:

stillhidden:

hsm7:

There’s so much more to this now that we know about their origin. 

Yes. :) And in a way there always was, because you could sense the undercurrent tides even if you didn’t know where they were coming from. Bill was always so alternately scared and yet kind of pathetically defiant of Eric, you just knew there had to be a long history of something there. ;)

Haha…yes to all of the above, and one thing I’ve noticed is that Eric’s fashion sense evolved throughout the ages where Bill’s did not. Eric looks like a total rock star here…and Bill kind of looks like his dodgy manager.

Bwahahaha. “Dogdy manager…” :)

As funny as this is, though, I feel like we don’t know what the hell Bill’s fashion sense really is. He never dressed for his own gratification, so to speak. Every time we saw him, he was dressed for “an occasion”: His clothes are always part of the persona he puts on in order to achieve whatever it is he needs to achieve. 

He showed up at Merlotte’s that first time looking like a local yokel: un-shaved, wearing dingy jacket and a Henley shirt under it. He dressed this way because he thought that was the look a Bumfuck town waitress would respond to. When Sookie told him in no uncertain terms that he should treat her like the lady that she is, the very next outfit he appears in was his “Southern Gentleman” garb: Nondescript but pristine long-sleeved shirt neatly tucked into nondescript but pristine slacks. And he proceeded to wear this particular “costume,” occasionally adding a nondescript but pristine leather jacket and varying the shirt styles slightly for 2 seasons.  

When he went to see Sophie-Anne’s at the end of season 2, that’s the first time (I think) we saw him change that look. He was wearing a much sleeker leather jacket and jeans. That was also a costume. That’s his “QSA’s Pimp” outfit. 

When he got to be king, he was all expensive suits and designer ties. Who knows if this was more his thing or if it was just what befitted his then status? 

I don’t think we’ve seen Bill in a truly relaxed, “self” mode, of either dress or behavior. Ever. 

I mean, Eric has his “costumes,” too. The over-the-top club wear he sports while sitting on that throne at Fangtasia. That’s for show. The grey suit he wore to see Sophie-Anne. That’s also for show. But we have seen plenty of “just Eric” moments, when he wears T-shirts, jeans, or sweat pants, or tank tops. Those flip-flops! The hilarious red kimono… Those are Eric and you know that’s not for impressing anyone, that’s for comfort and his own preference for the relaxed (with just a little bit of flair). :)

Bill was … we don’t really know who the hell Bill was. I don’t think he knew, either. I mean, we know WHO he was: a bad person in all ways imaginable. But as to what his personal preferences were in any given area? Hard to separate what was real and what was an act that he has been indulging in for so long he probably lost the line between the two.  

I didn’t like the long hair on Eric, but he did look like a rock star in this scene. Or maybe an aristocrat. He was so arrogantly beautiful. Even in a t-shirt he so clearly outclassed all the patrons of Merlotte’s. 

It’s interesting that he didn’t bother to dress up for Merlotte’s or the tribunal. Eric isn’t pretentious. He isn’t trying to social climb. So if he absolutely doesn’t have to be in costume, he prefers to be comfortable. 

Your post almost makes me feel sad for Bill. He’s like an empty space where a person should be.

He was, though. For most of his life. And I can’t even say that this was a condition brought on by becoming a vampire. His kind of emptiness dates back to formative years (and probably to being born with psychopathic tendencies, anyway).

If he didn’t do so much damage to everyone around him, I would primarily feel pity for him. But he does. He leaves a trail of victims behind him. Bill is wily enough that he emerges unscathed, while everyone around him suffers. 

Yep. If Bill was merely tortured (the way he tried to present himself, and the notion he still clung to at his last moments before becoming Billith), that would be one thing. That would be the reason to feel terrible for his emptiness. But his emptiness is the kind of void that sucks everyone around him into a black hole of pain, ruin, and ultimate destruction, while yes, Bill himself remains unscathed. So, sorry Bill, but not sorry for you. 

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Nov 4

stillhidden:

hsm7:

stillhidden:

fairydeetales:

mametupa:

stillhidden:

“Maybe next time you shoot me.” :) I loved that whole scene so much.

It was a lovely scene, and I enjoyed it too :)

It was a wonderful scene, and it was surprising (not sure why) when Eric gave the wreath a little “RIP” pat.  Hopefully, “Maybe next time you shoot me” is not foreshadowing.

I loved that little “pat” on the wreath. I am almost certain that was AS’s “ad lib.” :) It was surprising, because it was an off-hand and a very human gesture. From someone like Eric, whose gestures thus far have been so very measured, it was a lovely little moment of just being. 

There was so much goodness in this scene, including the little pat at the end. They were open with each other. There was a little flirtation between them, but there was also their usual banter. Sookie was accepting of him in her interaction with him, both in words and in body language. She goes from having her arms crossed in front of her to moving them to her side when he opens up about the dangers of werewolves on ‘v’ and the challenges they present, even to him.  There was real honesty in this scene and gave us a glimpse of the true possibility of “them” as a couple. 

Yes, this! I think more than anything, more than the banter, and the little funny, and the flirting, what I love about this scene is that possibility. Yes, it’s still a “war-time” kind of a situation — the only situations they had between them at this point — but it’s “at peace” kind of an interaction. You can see how they can be together without all the drama and the danger, and you realize that they have something other than the drama and the danger. That they can share a sense of humor, that they can be open with each other, that they don’t always have to be guarded, that they can tease each other not simply to provoke reactions but to just have fun. That they can simply talk. It was a great little glimpse and it gave me hope for them more than anything before. :)

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switchbladekiller:

cookietookie:

switchbladekiller:

stillhidden:

unreconstructedfangirl:

Here’s why: girls have to be perfect, or they’re not good enough. She’s very human, she makes mistakes. She’s not perfect, and girls are also very, very judgmental. That’s it in a nutshell I’d say.

Yep.

If you don’t like a character, because you just don’t like them, they irritate you ect then fine, but I find the explanations I come across for not liking the character of Sookie, especially considering what she has to deal with throughout the narrative, are based on many illegitimate reasons.

Exactly! this is what pisses me off the most. The fact that a  BUNCH of people dislike Sookie because:
1. She dumped Eric
2. She didn’t jump straight to his bed the night they met
3. She was with Bill
4. She didn’t stop loving Bill 5 seconds after she learnt of his betrayal
5. She’s “whining” about her amaaaaazing gift - telephaty 
6. She dares not to like hearing thoughts of the whole fucking town
7. She tends to react emotionally
8. She tries her best to keep her loved ones safe
9. She slept with 2 MEN in her whole life which makes her a whore obviously

This, and list goes on, female leads tend get a bashing no matter what.I also think some who watch the show are just plain jealous that Sookie gets all these hunks vying for her love/attention: ” who the hell is she?? what’s so special about her??” type of thing….I’ve seen comments like that as well…then any “excuse” to be nasty about her is unleashed.

switchbladekiller:

cookietookie:

switchbladekiller:

stillhidden:

unreconstructedfangirl:

Here’s why: girls have to be perfect, or they’re not good enough. She’s very human, she makes mistakes. She’s not perfect, and girls are also very, very judgmental. That’s it in a nutshell I’d say.

Yep.

If you don’t like a character, because you just don’t like them, they irritate you ect then fine, but I find the explanations I come across for not liking the character of Sookie, especially considering what she has to deal with throughout the narrative, are based on many illegitimate reasons.

Exactly! this is what pisses me off the most. The fact that a  BUNCH of people dislike Sookie because:

1. She dumped Eric

2. She didn’t jump straight to his bed the night they met

3. She was with Bill

4. She didn’t stop loving Bill 5 seconds after she learnt of his betrayal

5. She’s “whining” about her amaaaaazing gift - telephaty 

6. She dares not to like hearing thoughts of the whole fucking town

7. She tends to react emotionally

8. She tries her best to keep her loved ones safe

9. She slept with 2 MEN in her whole life which makes her a whore obviously

This, and list goes on, female leads tend get a bashing no matter what.I also think some who watch the show are just plain jealous that Sookie gets all these hunks vying for her love/attention: ” who the hell is she?? what’s so special about her??” type of thing….I’ve seen comments like that as well…then any “excuse” to be nasty about her is unleashed.

stillhidden:

mametupa:

luvtheviking:

aegirgodofthesea:

Is this from the books or am I missing something?

Are you retarded? Did you confuse Godrik in the books with Eric? WTF is you problem? THE WORLD IS FULL OF MORONS. These confessions are like crap. They get worse each days.

The confessor might refer to what Eric and pam talked while Sam with Arlene’s kid was visiting Fangtasia in 2x11:Eric: Come on, Pam. They’re funny. They’re like humans, but miniature. Teacup humans.Pam: I hate them. They’re so stupid.Eric: But delicious.
But that doesn’t mean Eric had eaten a child. I could say that caviar tastes delicious even though I haven’t eaten it.

This is the same moronic “Confessor” that tried to “remind” everyone that Eric is EVIIIIIIL yesterday, too. I forget what little tidbit they pulled out of their behind then, but it also began with “reminder.” 
Desperate, desperate Bill fans. I would feel sorry for this “confessors,” but …. I don’t. :)

stillhidden:

mametupa:

luvtheviking:

aegirgodofthesea:

Is this from the books or am I missing something?

Are you retarded? Did you confuse Godrik in the books with Eric? WTF is you problem? THE WORLD IS FULL OF MORONS. These confessions are like crap. They get worse each days.

The confessor might refer to what Eric and pam talked while Sam with Arlene’s kid was visiting Fangtasia in 2x11:
Eric: Come on, Pam. They’re funny. They’re like humans, but miniature. Teacup humans.
Pam: I hate them. They’re so stupid.
Eric: But delicious.

But that doesn’t mean Eric had eaten a child. I could say that caviar tastes delicious even though I haven’t eaten it.

This is the same moronic “Confessor” that tried to “remind” everyone that Eric is EVIIIIIIL yesterday, too. I forget what little tidbit they pulled out of their behind then, but it also began with “reminder.” 

Desperate, desperate Bill fans. I would feel sorry for this “confessors,” but …. I don’t. :)

truebloodwillpsychuout:

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switchbladekiller:

Love this.

This was a nice hint towards Bill’s tendency to overfeed Sookie his blood. When Eric cautions him about it, I remember thinking hmm that’s kind of odd, why is he giving her more than is good for her at certain times when she needed it? And it got me thinking again about certain incidents that took place in season 1 that were not fitting with his southern gentlemen persona, including the lack of information regarding Vampire customs.

Oh, yeah, Bill was forever over-zealous with his blood.

The interesting thing is the turn of the phrase here: “You’ll overcook her.” Eric isn’t just asking “why are you giving her so much more than she needs?” He is saying “you are giving her almost enough to either kill her with it or possibly turn her.” Notice that Bill isn’t really concerned about it. In any situation. He isn’t worried about giving her too much, ever. Which makes me think — not for the first time — that Bill knew from the get-go she was part-fae, and that, perhaps, she either cannot be turned, or else, the turning of a fae takes more than just replacing most of the blood. 

Well, it’s not really known how much vampire blood is needed to heal severe injuries, and Sookie’s injuries were severe here and in S1. I doubt that Bill had ever given his blood to a human before. Eric at least was a maker, so we know he gave blood to at least one human before—Pam. But Eric is clearly concerned that Bill is giving Sookie too much. There are serious consequences to taking too much vampire blood—gout of the dick, hallucinations, difficulty controlling one’s emotions. And we see Sookie acting all horny and irrational in the first 3 seasons because she’s so hopped up on Bill’s blood. Bill was controlling her with blood and sex. He was doing it in the books, and he was doing it in the show.

stillhidden:

maggiesview:

stillhidden:

hsm7:

maggiesview:

stillhidden:

hsm7:

switchbladekiller:

unreconstructedfangirl:

He so happy to see her.

With all the books he had in the cubby, he must have spent quite a bit of time down there.Feeling somewhat comforted in her surroundings perhaps,waiting and hoping she would come back.A flashback is needed of this time period. :)

Yes, the open book on his bed when Sookie first goes down into his cubby shows that the room wasn’t just set up in preparation for him staying there some time in the future. He actually had stayed there. 

A flashback would be nice, but I’d also like to see Sookie reassess what Eric actually did for her. Yeah, he bought her house, but the way he restored it really shows how he felt about her before the amnesia. In spite of his “you are mine” mentality, the attention to Sookie’s heritage and the obvious care he took in restoring her home belies his initial approach to her. This was a tribute to her and to who she is…I’d like to see it not get lost in all of the crazy drama in her world. :)

Exactly.

Sookie is not given to self analysis or reflection. She operates more from the heart and the gut. I think she has registered all of this and more and it accounts for her falling in love with him even before AE made an appearance. She does not pull all of her experiences into her mind and then sort them all out, giving her the ability to articulate them verbally-like most of us here love to do.

I agree with this to a certain extent. I don’t know if not being reflective is solely related to not being a part of her make-up, or if it’s more likely a result of the whirlwind she’s been living for the past 1 1/2 years. In all honesty, she hasn’t really had the time to take a breath and reflect.

Instead ,she takes all of life in wholesale as one would breathe in and to it she adds her particular Sookie brand of heart and soul and when she exhales out comes Sookie reality. It is why she continued to love Bill for so long and did not immediately register his deceitful and manipulative nature and his need for self aggrandizement. She does get it eventually, however, as we saw in her threesome dream.

I think a large part of this is her inexperience with love, with men, and with interacting with people that she cannot read. Granted, I think she is an extremely loving and trusting person, but she was at a huge disadvantage with Bill given her lack of experience, her inability to be intuitive and read nonverbal signs because of her gift, and his talent for exploiting weaknesses. I don’t think it can all be attributed to her heart.

But getting it does not mean she ceases to love Bill. Once Sooke gives her love she does not take it back.She may not trust him or want to be his HEA because of it but she loves him nevertheless. In this she and Eric are alike. All that betrayal and hurt that Eric suffers at Nora’s hands and he still loves her. Even before this point, we get that Eric never approved of her power hungry nature. Still, he loves her. Thus it is with Sookie. Eric and Sookie are both more simplistic in their love and passions. Neither is given overly much to analysis.

I agree that Sookie and Eric are similar in they way they trust and love (one of many similarities between them), and Bill and Nora are representative of that.

I too wish we could get a flashback of this time but it would not be consistent to there storyline. I think they will come back together because they do take in every little thing about one another but due it on a gut level. Sookie will get back together with Eric when she “feels” it and not because of a list of reasons, one being that he saved her house for her and had it lovingly restored as a tribute to her and who she is.  Eric, for his part, already “feels ” it but he must also come to a point where he can embrace her human side as much as he does her fae side. Perhaps the male bonding we saw with Jason is an indication of the route he will take to accomplish this.

I don’t think wanting to see her recognize just what Eric has done for her is expecting her to reunite with him because she’s ticked off a list of reasons  of why she should be with him. It’s like when she admitted that that he offered himself at FoTS. I think it’s these little things that bring realization to her about what Eric feels for her. Eric certainly doesn’t need it, because he doesn’t do things for the recognition. He doesn’t concern himself with those things. He is selfless in that regard. However, seeing Sookie reflect and evaluate would be nice. I think TB makes a point of showing us what Eric has done for her. I’d like to see her make a connection and replace some of her misperceptions of what’s he’s done with the reality of what he’s done. :)

As for whether or not he’s embraced her ‘human’ side, I don’t think that’s a question anymore. I think his experience at The Authority has pushed him to make peace with many things, one of those being his love for Sookie in spite of her rejection. Part of that love is accepting who she is and not what she is, and I think he made that very clear in the final episode. 

This. Especially the bold.

Oh, I think he has accepted loving Sookie and that it was made clear as you say. I see that I did not make myself clear on this point. I think he has to embrace humans for their humans side and not just Sookie to be acceptable to Sookie and also to become fully evolved. For vampires and humans to truly co-exist they have to see each other for who they really are and see that their is good and bad in each. Each is an individual and should be taken on an individual basis. Not as Jason is doing now-hating all vampires because a vampire killed his parents. And not as Eric and Pam have thought in the past as “breathers” who are looked down upon.

See, I think Eric is there, basically. Whatever he may say — and he doesn’t spout entrenched philosophies all that much, anyway — he does approach everyone on individual basis. Not that he doesn’t have general prejudices, but individually, he does find Jason rather endearing, and he does like Lafayette, and their “humanness” is not really an issue for him.

I don’t foresee Eric making any kind of a Roman-like “humans are our daddies and we should love them all” statements, but if you look at it, Eric (not Bill) was always the biggest mainstreamer. He was the one living side-by-side with humans, running a business for the mixed crowd, employing humans, toeing the human law line, etc. 

By the same token, he approaches vampires and other supes the same way. Individually. Some he likes, some he tolerates, and others he finds loathsome. 

To be human is not somehow less than being vampire and to be vampire is not something monstrous. It is something humans and vampires both must do. Their is hate and misunderstanding on both sides. Eric,  is representative of the middle of the road vampire who mostly sees humans as inferior but he does not go out of his way to mistreat them. I don’t think Sookie will respond well if he continues with that attitude. After all, she loves all of them, humans, weres, shape shifter, vampires etc. I think one of the reasons Bill could manipulate her so well is that he established himself as The Mainstreaming vampire who loved humans and his humaniteh more than he loved vampires or his own vampiric nature. I meant to discriminate between Eric’s love for and respect for Sookie and everything she is which is indeed made clear at the end of S5 and his feelings about humans in general. Hopefully I set it straight now.

But Sookie knows them both better now. She knows that a lot of the outward attitudes are not what’s inside. Bill’s proclamations were lies, and Eric’s casual intolerance was a surface mostly. I do think she makes the distinction, however little she says about it. She wouldn’t have fallen for Eric if she thought him hateful or deeply prejudiced. 

My thoughts on Melancholia…

makesmyheadspin:

  • Okay, so the first half reminded me so much of Om Sara. That was the first thing that came to me.
  • I also noticed just how similar Alex and Stellan sound when they speak, and that just freaked me the fuck out.
  • I’m in love with the score, which is kind of random since I honestly don’t usually pay attention, but it was hard to ignore in this movie.
  • Visually the movie is stunning. That’s another thing I don’t usually pay attention to unless it’s a Tim Burton or a Baz Luhrman movie I’m watching.
  • To my knowledge, this is the first Lars Von Trier movie I’ve seen so maybe I need to track down some more of them.
  • Claire got on my nerves a little bit. Control freak much? No wonder Justine was such a damn mess.
  • I love that it was such a quiet movie, considering the pretty heavy subject matter. There wasn’t a bunch of yelling, screaming or hysterics like there could have been. Perhaps that was the Scandinavian influence at work, I don’t know, but I loved it.
  • I’m also proud of myself for recognizing a painting that appeared to be of Salome with John the Baptist’s head. I all have True Blood tumblr analyzers to thank for that one haha.

I’m not sure what my favorite part of the movie was so I’ll have to go back and watch it again one day soon when I’m not trying to write with Scribe at the same time since it distracted me. When I told her I was going to watch the movie she said she was curious for my thoughts on it since people were generally either really depressed by the movie or oddly enlightened.

Honestly, I think it depends on how you perceive the message. It’s the same thing with “Into the Wild.” It’s easy to look at the movie as being tragic, but I didn’t get that impression at all. Yes, Justine was a very sad character, but I think that sort of lent her the ability to be a little more accepting of what ultimately happened. But in the end, even she didn’t want to die. I feel like I’m missing something, though, so I’m definitely going to have to watch this again to see what it is.

All in all, I thought it was a pretty good movie.

unreconstructedfangirl:

As you all know, I love a good 20/20 look back, and a couple of weeks ago, I started one for season 5, because I started the season with a lot of preconceived ideas about what I wanted to see that made it difficult for me to see what was really happening in some ways, and I thought a nice rewatch might be just what the doctor ordered for those sad weeks without more Eric.
In my first instalment, which is to be found here, I took a very Eric-centric look back at Turn, Turn, Turn, and found that even though Eric’s behavior wasn’t what I expected, it made a very human kind of emotional sense. Today, I’m carrying on with Episode 2: Authority Always Wins. As usual, I’m sticking with the parts that interest me, so this isn’t intended as a recap, and it’s not about plot — I’m looking for the emotional threads and comparing expectations against what happened. It’s also, as usual, all about Eric and Sookie and those nearest them.
So. Episode two, I think, takes us out of the emotional world of our three lovers, and plunges us fully into the new problems of the new season. As we rejoin Bill and Eric, they are being ushered into the Authority under armed guard, and are met on the ground floor by Salome. It’s an interesting scene because now that I’ve seen the whole season we know that Nora has already been complicit in digging up Russell. Later scenes indicate that by the time they are questioned by Roman, Bill has been apprised of the news that Russell has escaped, and since there is no time when Eric could have (or would have) shared this news with Bill alone, and not Nora, I have to imagine that he told them both about Alcide’s phone call. Nora, it is to be assumed, played it like it was news to her. We already know from Eric’s own lips that she is an adept liar.
I have to wonder if Salome and Nora’s exchange as they arrive is a bit of playacting for Eric and Bill’s benefit, too, or whether Nora did, as she later tells Eric, try to help them escape because she didn’t trust Russell to play nice with her older brother? It doesn’t make much sense that the Authority (Salome) sent Nora out to make sure her own brother was dead, and Salome knew who he was, even if the others don’t. Salome’s greeting, particularly to Eric, “You’re taller than I had expected”, seems to indicate that she knew they were coming. Perhaps Nora’s job was simply to bring them back there, and her detour truly does surprise Salome.
Or, perhaps it’s an elaborate scheme to get them back there without letting on to Eric and Bill or Roman that it was their plan? At any rate, Nora is imprisoned with them, and is tortured with them, but even (or especially?) with the whole season under my belt, I’m still unsure about when Nora is lying and when she’s telling the truth, and I don’t think that bodes well for the future.
So, Nora, Bill and Eric are locked up, and their ordeal begins in earnest. I notice a couple of things, here. First, that Bill’s gesture to take all the blame for their situation genuinely surprises Eric. He tells Dieter over the intercom that Nora and Eric have done nothing, and that they were both obeying his orders as king. Not a very good lie, but a genuine effort, I think, to get them both out.
The moment reminds me, a bit, of the scene in which Eric’ bites homophobic redneck dude in half in the dungeon in Fangtasia, in that it provides a sort of starting point for what will happen for the rest of the season. Bill starts the season looking like the good guy — he responds to Sookie’s fear when Eric won’t, he offers himself in exchange for Eric and Nora, When Nora tells them about Nigel’s baby habit, Bill looks disgusted, while Eric just looks at Bill, he refuses to give Eric or Nora up under torture, and later it’s Bill who has the bright idea of offering up Russell in exchange for their lives. On top of all that, while Eric only says he tries to stay away from politics and religion and looks disdainful, Bill reaffirms his fervent belief in mainstreaming. It’s as if, at the start of this season in which the scales will fall from our eyes about who Bill is, they work, in this episode, to establish his “good side”.
Eric isn’t without his moment, though. He too is steely under torture, and I think we all loved Eric’s scene with Salome, when she tells him Nora has met the true death. It’s a wonderful moment in which we see so much of Eric’s character flash over Alexander Skarsgard’s face wordlessly, as crushing grief is held in check by Eric’s immense self-control, and then he turns his eyes, full of cold fury on Salome. Great scene.
As Eric suffers at the Authority, Pam is increasingly desperate to get through to him, and we get the first of a the series of flashbacks that reveal how she came to be his progeny and closest ally. In this episode, Eric is basically a gentlemanly superhero with a sassy smile, and we get another iteration of the themes that have been building for four seasons now — Eric likes Pam because she’s not afraid and she smart mouths him — confirming that what Eric most looks for in a girl is a backbone and the guts to look him in the eye, and as usual, everything new we find out about him supports the idea that his goodness is real, sustained, and deep-seated.
Sookie, meanwhile, is dealing with the newborn vamp Tara situation, and it’s sticky. I won’t say much about it, only that I note that she tells Lafayette — “We have to get her into Eric’s cubby”. I like that that space in her home is still Eric’s in her mind. That’s a pretty specific writing choice, because “the cubby” would have worked just as well, and it’s meaningful that Sookie sees it as his. If he still has a place in her home, he still has a home in her heart, even if she can’t yet admit it.

unreconstructedfangirl:

As you all know, I love a good 20/20 look back, and a couple of weeks ago, I started one for season 5, because I started the season with a lot of preconceived ideas about what I wanted to see that made it difficult for me to see what was really happening in some ways, and I thought a nice rewatch might be just what the doctor ordered for those sad weeks without more Eric.

In my first instalment, which is to be found here, I took a very Eric-centric look back at Turn, Turn, Turn, and found that even though Eric’s behavior wasn’t what I expected, it made a very human kind of emotional sense. Today, I’m carrying on with Episode 2: Authority Always Wins. As usual, I’m sticking with the parts that interest me, so this isn’t intended as a recap, and it’s not about plot — I’m looking for the emotional threads and comparing expectations against what happened. It’s also, as usual, all about Eric and Sookie and those nearest them.

So. Episode two, I think, takes us out of the emotional world of our three lovers, and plunges us fully into the new problems of the new season. As we rejoin Bill and Eric, they are being ushered into the Authority under armed guard, and are met on the ground floor by Salome. It’s an interesting scene because now that I’ve seen the whole season we know that Nora has already been complicit in digging up Russell. Later scenes indicate that by the time they are questioned by Roman, Bill has been apprised of the news that Russell has escaped, and since there is no time when Eric could have (or would have) shared this news with Bill alone, and not Nora, I have to imagine that he told them both about Alcide’s phone call. Nora, it is to be assumed, played it like it was news to her. We already know from Eric’s own lips that she is an adept liar.

I have to wonder if Salome and Nora’s exchange as they arrive is a bit of playacting for Eric and Bill’s benefit, too, or whether Nora did, as she later tells Eric, try to help them escape because she didn’t trust Russell to play nice with her older brother? It doesn’t make much sense that the Authority (Salome) sent Nora out to make sure her own brother was dead, and Salome knew who he was, even if the others don’t. Salome’s greeting, particularly to Eric, “You’re taller than I had expected”, seems to indicate that she knew they were coming. Perhaps Nora’s job was simply to bring them back there, and her detour truly does surprise Salome.

Or, perhaps it’s an elaborate scheme to get them back there without letting on to Eric and Bill or Roman that it was their plan? At any rate, Nora is imprisoned with them, and is tortured with them, but even (or especially?) with the whole season under my belt, I’m still unsure about when Nora is lying and when she’s telling the truth, and I don’t think that bodes well for the future.

So, Nora, Bill and Eric are locked up, and their ordeal begins in earnest. I notice a couple of things, here. First, that Bill’s gesture to take all the blame for their situation genuinely surprises Eric. He tells Dieter over the intercom that Nora and Eric have done nothing, and that they were both obeying his orders as king. Not a very good lie, but a genuine effort, I think, to get them both out.

The moment reminds me, a bit, of the scene in which Eric’ bites homophobic redneck dude in half in the dungeon in Fangtasia, in that it provides a sort of starting point for what will happen for the rest of the season. Bill starts the season looking like the good guy — he responds to Sookie’s fear when Eric won’t, he offers himself in exchange for Eric and Nora, When Nora tells them about Nigel’s baby habit, Bill looks disgusted, while Eric just looks at Bill, he refuses to give Eric or Nora up under torture, and later it’s Bill who has the bright idea of offering up Russell in exchange for their lives. On top of all that, while Eric only says he tries to stay away from politics and religion and looks disdainful, Bill reaffirms his fervent belief in mainstreaming. It’s as if, at the start of this season in which the scales will fall from our eyes about who Bill is, they work, in this episode, to establish his “good side”.

Eric isn’t without his moment, though. He too is steely under torture, and I think we all loved Eric’s scene with Salome, when she tells him Nora has met the true death. It’s a wonderful moment in which we see so much of Eric’s character flash over Alexander Skarsgard’s face wordlessly, as crushing grief is held in check by Eric’s immense self-control, and then he turns his eyes, full of cold fury on Salome. Great scene.

As Eric suffers at the Authority, Pam is increasingly desperate to get through to him, and we get the first of a the series of flashbacks that reveal how she came to be his progeny and closest ally. In this episode, Eric is basically a gentlemanly superhero with a sassy smile, and we get another iteration of the themes that have been building for four seasons now — Eric likes Pam because she’s not afraid and she smart mouths him — confirming that what Eric most looks for in a girl is a backbone and the guts to look him in the eye, and as usual, everything new we find out about him supports the idea that his goodness is real, sustained, and deep-seated.

Sookie, meanwhile, is dealing with the newborn vamp Tara situation, and it’s sticky. I won’t say much about it, only that I note that she tells Lafayette — “We have to get her into Eric’s cubby”. I like that that space in her home is still Eric’s in her mind. That’s a pretty specific writing choice, because “the cubby” would have worked just as well, and it’s meaningful that Sookie sees it as his. If he still has a place in her home, he still has a home in her heart, even if she can’t yet admit it.

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cookietookie:

bitchpleasethereisnogod:

mythoughts68:

The girl can go, but I’ll need something in exchange. Your lives, Kill yourselves and she walks free. Both of you!

IMO this scene was really stupid. Like Eric’s 1000 years old and okay he’s in love with her but is he really gonna kill himself after 1000 years for her? It’s just so OOC.. he WOULD have a plan. Eric always has a plan. It seems really stupid that after so many years of practising being a sneaky, cunning vamprire he just gives up like this. Oh yeah and I think someone analysed Bill’s line of fire and it wasn’t actually pointed at his head, it was pointed like a bit above LOL FAIL

+that cgi explosion at the end what is that omg the budget was low that year 

But the thing is that he really didn’t have any plan. Neither did Bill. If they had, Pam and the rest would know about it. And no, Eric doesn’t always have a plan. He’s not a plan-making robot. He makes mistakes too. And I’d like to point out that in this moment, he’s not a sneaky, cunning vampire but a man who like  one day ago regained his memory, realized he was in love with Sookie and all that shit. So pardon, if he wasn’t thinking with his brain but with his heart instead.